Vitality и Hell

[Ronin]

Я часто вижу в гайдах советы, мол качайте strength (dexterity, energy - в зависимости от перса) до какого-то минимально необходимого (даже частично повешенного шмотом) уровня, а все остальное вкачивайте в vitality. Я понимаю, что здоровья много не бывает. Но стоит ли "злоупотреблять" такой прокачкой?
Я понимаю, что многое зависит от перса. Но какой минимальный (хотя-бы приблизительный) уровень vitality должен быть раскачан у каждого перса, чтобы пройти Hell?

[WOLK]

200 Vitality. Это минимум.
Стоит помнить, что разным классам идёт разная прибавка за очко виталити. Варвару - 4 хп, паладину и амазонке - 3 хп, всем остальным - 2 хп.
То есть варвару виталити полезнее всего, и вещи с большим плюсом к данному параметру (например, ремень Verdungo's Hearty Cord) дают ему очень большое количество ХП. Ведь в конечном счёте полученный от них бонус еще и умножается на процент от навыка Battle Orders.
Что же касается друидов, то им вещи с Виталити приносят не очень много пользы. Гораздо полезнее непосредственный +life, который будет ещё дополнительно усилен духом Oak Sage. Приведу сравнительный пример:
Возьмём варвара с Battle Ordres 30 уровня и друида-волка с Lycanthropy Oak Sage 30 уровня.
Вкачаем варвару 100 очков виталити. 100х4х2,22=888 hp.
Вкачаем друиду 100 очков виталити: 100х2х4,65=930 hp.
Дадим варвару вещь с +100 лайф: 100х2,22=222 hp
Дадим друиду вещь с +100 лайф: 100х4,65=465 hp

Как видишь, если увеличение виталити примерно одинаково сказывается на этих персонажах, то увеличение непосредственно жизни гораздо полезнее друиду, нежели варвару.

[Ronin]

А что насчет сорки и амы?

[WOLK]

Что именно ты хочешь услышать? Всё то же самое. Качается виталити как можно больше, dexterity - под максимальный 75% блок, сила - под вещи. Энергия не качается. Покупается рунворд Call to Arms и используется для придания большей живучести.
Есть редкий вариант амазонки - дексазонка. Эта барышня предпочитает вкладываться в ловкость вместо того, чтобы становиться мясистее. Ловкость увеличивает урон из луков, поэтому дамаг её стрел не так и смешон. Но живучесть...она ничтожна. Амазонки такого типа живут за счёт того, что расстреливают мобов за пределами видимости, на дистанции более 1 экрана. Но 95% амазонок раскачиваются стандартным образом, через океан виталити.
Сорке качается виталити в обязательном порядке. Большинство софткорных сорок не качают макс. блок, т.к. ходят со Спиритом или jmod щитом (у них низкие базовые блоки). Поэтому виталити достигает значения в три сотни.

[Ronin]

Спс WOLK. Я все-таки выберу золотую середину, т.е. виталити буду качать в меру, остальное кидать на декс (ама) и энерджи (сорка).
Помню времена первой дьябы, когда я играл сорком. Ему виталити вообще не качал, выучивал скил магического щита и заботился о пополнении маны. А во 2-й дьябле маг. щиты вообще не качал. Вот думаю поэкспериментировать, все равно новый патч дает возможность реснуть скилы, если криво качну.

[DarichTheThird]

Спс WOLK. Я все-таки выберу золотую середину, т.е. виталити буду качать в меру, остальное кидать на декс (ама) и энерджи (сорка).
Помню времена первой дьябы, когда я играл сорком. Ему виталити вообще не качал, выучивал скил магического щита и заботился о пополнении маны. А во 2-й дьябле маг. щиты вообще не качал. Вот думаю поэкспериментировать, все равно новый патч дает возможность реснуть скилы, если криво качну.

не стоит качать энергию, правда
в начале- синие баночки, в середине- рунворд Insight в руках у мерка, в конце BO и вещицы дадут океан маны, которые ты разве что в пятую точку себе запихнешь и все равно еще останется :)

[Nazgul]

Да пусть качает. Будет целых три раза когда можно перекидать поинты. Потому считаю, терпеть и зависеть от дропа банок или чего в таком роде, уже просто нужда отпала. Хороша ложка к обеду. Теперь незачем терпеть во имя комфортного будущего. :ag:

[Ronin]

А дамаг энерджи прибавляет для сорки, как для амы декс?

[WOLK]

Разумеется, нет. Энерджи - абсолютно бесполезный стат. По-настоящему применим только волшебницей с Energy Shield 40 уровня и Telekinesis, прокачанным на 20. Но даже такие сорки качают не энергию, а виталити, т.к. яд в ПвМ или опен вундс в ПвП убьют энерджи-олл сорку за считанные секунды.

[Ronin]

Хех. Получается, что прокачка энерджи - бесполезная трата стат-поинтов для любого перса.
Кстати, если сорке качать декс, то повышается аттак рейтинг. Если ли смысл качать декс?

[WOLK]

Лол, фаерболлам не нужен атак рейтинг, чтобы попадать в мобов. Как ты кидаешь заклинание, так оно и летит. Любое заклинание. Атак рейтинг - для бойцов.
Соркам декстерити качается не ради атак рейтинга, а ради хорошей блокировки щитом. Максимально возможная - 75%. Если достигнешь этого значения, 3/4 ударов и выстрелов не будут причинять тебе вреда. Очень ценно.
Ещё блок сильно зависит от типа используемого щита. Но давай-ка ты будешь сам искать подробные ответы на такие тривиальные вопросы.

[Ronin]

Спасибо, теперь разобрался.

[Iron_angel]

бллин... ес - манаолл сорки вполне замечательный в пвп. rly... если не мгновенная смерть от яда и открытых ран, то очень сложно убить не за один этап.

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