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[HES]

Какие существуют лучшие связки команды из Двух Игроков на Хардкоре для разных целей?

Интересует в частности прокачка WW-барба + Хаммердиан.
Что качать? Есть ли какие-то особые моменты в прокачке этих персонажей для совместной игры на Хардкоре?

[WOLK]

ВВ-барбу стандартно:
20 - Whirlwind
20 - Battle Orders
20 - Shout
20 - War Cry
20 - Mastery (axe или sword).

Некоторые вместо Вар Края качают на полную Айрон Скин, но на мой взгляд, это недальновидно. Вар Краем можно застанить кого угодно и выжить за счет этого, а Айрон скин защитит только от физических атак.
Ну а насчёт того, как качать хаммердина, и вопросов-то быть не может - все банально.

Ещё из связок двух персонажей неплохо смотрелись бы фаир-сорка с ЕС+ пойзонекр, саммонер+смайтер, саммонер+зелот, саммонер+ВВ-барб, хаммер+саммонер, фури-друид+ВВ-барб.

[Iron_angel]

траспа + смитер с конвой, сорка + сметер с конвой.
Я думаю сорка со смайтером с конвой всё очень быстро выносить будут. Можно также вместо сорки - фуризонку. Можно фуризонку + медвед с OS и станом.

[Tim_ru]

В данном случае, если брать барба, то лучше не WW. Они не так сильно толпу на себя отвлекают. Крикун предпочтительней. Имхо.

[Iron_angel]

В данном случае, если брать барба, то лучше не WW. Они не так сильно толпу на себя отвлекают. Крикун предпочтительней. Имхо.

ты про какой случай? "саммонер+ВВ-барб" норм связка, тут он как даммагер как раз. А вот "фури-друид+ВВ-барб" уже можно подумать об прыгуне или iron барбе.

[Tim_ru]

Саммонер сам замечательный дамагер) Более того - массовые убийства, это явно не стезя барба, даже WW-барба. В этом плане, он достаточно средненький персонаж. "Случай" заключается в том, что барб - вспомогательный персонаж. Ну, я так понял. Помощи от крикуна на много больше. И, кстати, самонеру особенно полезен крикун. Собирает толпу, обкрикивает ее основательно и прыгает. В это время, команда саммонера, существенно окрепшая, рубает всех подряд, не встречая серьезного сопротивления.

[WOLK]

Нет, Тим, крикун саммонеру не требуется. Чем отличается крикун от вайрлвиндера, с точки зрения саммонера? Тем, что у первого БО и шаут в полтора раза сильнее, и тем, что первый не наносит врагам урона. Всё остальное саммонера не интересует. Какие там станящие крики, Лип - нафига? На 2 ппл все эти заморочки совершенно не требуются. Под БО от обычного вайрлвиндера скелеты уже будут абсолютно бессмертны в любых локациях, кроме уберника. Они даже под ИМ не дохли после БО, когда я на 1.11 играл. Так что вайрлвиндер лучше, т.к. не зависит от своего товарища на 90%, как крикун, и может достаточно резво убивать мобов. А то, что его дамагу не достичь саммонерского - второстепенный вопрос.

[Tim_ru]

Не знаю... Мне нравится в толпе прыгать) Убивать правда некогда, но зато и варвара никто не трогает. Особенно если War Cry покрикивать периодически, совсем весело получается))) Grim Ward выглядит симпатичным навыком, только самому варвару на фиг не нужен. Вот самонер например, возле тотема себя уверенней чувствовал бы. Taunt позволит сгрупировать разрозненных противников.
Когда же WW постоянно выполняешь, мобы гоняясь за тобой, довольно далеко разбегаются. И не большой минус то, что во время атаки кричать нельзя.

[HES]

Пыля, прыгнул на хеле в третьем акте к миньёнам мелким с фанатизмом и инет оборвалсО(

опять 77 цх варвар скончалсо)

[swat)lis[rus]]

a как вам bug auradin+dual dream soso :ag:

[Tim_ru]

Не много не в тему - в PvP нарвался на теам бонера с барбом. Бонер практически не играл, тихо мирно стоял в сторонке и проклинал всех ADом... подлюга.

[ppnikpa]

Действует всегда только одна аура та что выше по уровню, так что иметь в команде вместе с аурдином сорку бесполезно.

[d1am0nd]

Саммонер+саммонер=пи$%! всему живому:az:, есть возражения?

[mefistic]

imo, скелетов надо чем-то баффать, а не только 2 разных мерка юзать.

[WOLK]

Саммонер+саммонер=пи$%! всему живому:az:, есть возражения?

Есть. Саммонер+хаммердин будут эффективнее.
А так у меня самого давно есть мечта собрать команду из некромантов-саммонеров :) Представляете, какую армию могут собрать 8 саммонеров? Конечно же, всем надо хороший коннект, маленький пинг и не самый слабый компьютер.

[Tim_ru]

8 саммонеров и ппс не только всему живому, но и серверу на котором игра будет создана.

[ppnikpa]

Будет просто неудобно играть.

[WOLK]

8 саммонеров и ппс не только всему живому, но и серверу на котором игра будет создана.

Кстате, это может оказаться новым способом делать роллбэки или ещё какую-нибудь запредельную хрень из области анального изнасилования сервера с коммерческими целями :)

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